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    # Enter your code here. Read input from STDIN. Print output to STDOUT
    
    import re
    
    s = input()
    k = input() 
    regex_pattern =  r'(?={})'.format(re.escape(k))
    found = False
    for match in re.finditer(regex_pattern,s):
        
        print((match.start(),match.start() + len(k) - 1))
        found = True
        
    if not match:
        print((-1,-1))